I’m in my late 50’s, so my highschool years put me into the heart of the 1970’s –where the greatest rock n’ roll bands of all time produced their timeless masterpieces. At no time since the 1970’s has there been such iconic rock music produced. Sure, the 1960’s produced the ground breakers like the Beatles and Stones (and Elvis before that), but the 1970’s produced some of the most sophisticated music (sometimes called “progressive, or “prog” rock) in rock history. We’re talking Canadian stars like Rush (the most successful Canadian band of all time and arguably the amongst greatest technical talent in the world), The Guess Who and others—while the British mega talents like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis and so many others produced highly sophisticated albums that – to this day- remain iconic award winning classics. The likes of which will possibly never be duplicated.
Yeah, I’m a rocker – and yeah, I still listen to (and study the styles of) all of these groups with a fever. I was privileged to have seen many of these brilliant bands live – many of whom have since retired after long, successful careers. So today’s title is both fitting for the current mindset that many investors may be in. It also pays homage to one of my top-three favorite bands of all time – Led Zeppelin—and one of their truly iconic songs.
I’d like to offer up 3 charts comparing bull/bear cycles – and note similarities across all three charts. But I’d also like to illustrate why the current selloff is not entirely like that of the first two –leading me to be a dazed and confused. I’m not 100% convinced that recent actions are leading into a bear market similar to what happened in the first two charts. However, there are enough conditions present to suggest that the market could easily tip into that bear market scenario on a dime…hence the mindset of being “dazed and confused”.
Chart 1: 1995 -2000 bull, 2000-2002 bear
The weekly chart shows us the strongest trending 1995-2000 bull period, despite the bull market truly beginning in the late 1980’s. The earlier trend of that bull had a much lower angle of accent- making that period less similar to the next two charts. Four conditions can be observed as the market trended through its 1995-2000 bull market phase, and then transitioned into a massive bear market. They were:
- Sharp angled bull trend with consistent higher highs and lows, above the 200 day SMA with only brief breaks
- Narrow leadership in the latter years of the bull market (technology & “dot-com” stocks)
- When the market broke, it then rebounded by a 50% retracement but did not return into old trendline- as discussed here
- When the market broke – it broke its sharp angled trendline.
Chart 2: 2002 – 2008 bull, 2008 – 2009 bear
Here, we see 4 similar conditions as we saw during the prior bull, with a few nuances:
- More regulated bull trend with consistent higher highs and lows, above the 200 day SMA with only brief breaks
- Narrow leadership in the later years of the bull market (energy, financials and junk bonds)
- When the market broke, it, then rebounded by a 50% retracement
- When the market broke, it made a lower peak and trough, which took the market back up but not into the bull trendline
Chart 3: 2009 – 2017 bull, then….?
- More variety in this uptrend. Very sharp, tight low volatility trend in 2017 that led into a sideways 2018
- Narrow leadership in 2017 during the later years of the bull (FANG’s, other technology stocks )
- When the market broke, it has so far has retraced a bit more than 50%.
- The market has returned to its longer termed trendline
Conclusion
We have some similarities between the three charts in that they all broke the 200 day SMA, they all broke a dominant trendline by taking out a dominant low, and they were all led into the break by narrow leadership. The difference this time around is the return of the market to trading above its long termed trendline. It is for this reason that I am less convinced that we are entering into a bear market with any certainty. However, there are enough similarities within the other factors that worry me. To paraphrase Robert Plant:
I’ve been dazed and confused for so long it’s not true. I wanted to invest, but never bargained for you!
The difference? QE was only invented in 2009 I think.
Yes. I’m in my 60’s and we were born in the best of times for music.
Believed in gold for the last two years, but didn’t work out.
2019 looks like the year.
Watch that lid on gold at 1360-ish Tony–it has been an unbreakable ceiling for quite some time–would need a real drop in the USD or something similar to break it..we shall see.
As always, a great blog. The market content is much appreciated but I agree whole heartedly even though I am older than you at 81, with your taste in music. My son is about your age and we used to listen to music together in the 70s. I don’t consider myself a musical sophisticate but even to me, the rock music in that age was phenomenal. I’m interested that your list didn’t include Queen.
Fred–yeah, Queen should have been included for sure..but I guess I left many off of that list.
Hi Keith.
You are comparing this drop to the secular bear drops.
Why not compare this drop to the 2015; 2011;1990;1987 drops which all occured in
secular bull market.
tony.
Good question Anthony. I am comparing thes drop to prior crashes to explore if the setup for a crash is similar. Not becasue I believe we are in a crash environment. Hope I have made it clear over this and other blogs that I am not convinced this is a bear market. I am in fact trying to figure out if this is just another correction like the pullbacks (as opposed to crashes) you note.
As I note on this blog–there is a disconnect between the current chart and the last two major crashes. That is, in both of the bear markets noted, neither saw the breakdown recover to within its former trendline. In both cases, the market remained below the old trendline even after a 50% retracement.
I remain agnostic as to the potential from here…neither bull nor bear
Hi Keith:
I chart a number of indicators to better understand the market. My favourite, the 10 day A/D (NYSE) on January 9 hit the second highest since 1950 (I only have records back to 1950). There have only been 10 other days this indicator has closed above 2.0 on a daily basis since 1950. Not once has this indicator ever closed above 1.90 since 1950 during or before a recession but only recovering from recessions/major sell offs. History can teach us and fool us but for the record I am mostly invested believing we are good for at least the intermediate term. Many of Jason’s studies point in the same direction. All the best.
Thanks Terry–good insight